Good morning from California

"ImmoralMinority" (araimondo) 10/23/2019 at 11:27 • Filed to: None

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California dreaming, baby

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:33

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We should all be moving to Nebraska. 

SiennaMan > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:33

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So, did Indiana do away with their registration tax? I recall paying over $100 around 2006 to register a newish Ford Taurus. My now wife’s newish Honda Civic was over $170..

Ash78, voting early and often > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:34

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Unintentional cherry picking — the states excluded normally have a complex tax formula, so you just pay whatever is on the card they send out. Alabama would be about the same as CA. Some states hit us with ad valorem taxes hard, others just see registration as a minor annual clerical thing. Once your car “bottoms out” at $2,000 in value here, it’s just $32/year.

IIRC, my parents in MD (another supremely high tax state like CA) only paid $40 for a FOUR-YEAR tag. They get you everywhere else.

B_dol > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:36

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Absolutely the case. The insurance premium and registration deductions alone net $2 K back in my pocket after moving outside of CA. I do miss the sublime canyon roads...

Sovande > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:36

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In VA you do pay $45.75 for the registration sticker and documentation. However, you can’t get the registration without paying your p roperty taxes which are figured at a percentage of the value of the car. This means that this year my Volvo was $310 for the property taxes and $45.75 for the registration for a total of $356.

So to me, it seems as though this list does not paint the whole picture. While the fees may be more in California, the disparity is likely not as great as it may seem at first blush.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:36

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Its more likely that if a state was missing, it is about the same cost which would make this look less dramatic. We are not the only state that charges a bunch of money. Idk why that car was so much in particular though. My cars are in the $150 range each or so versus I paid about $60 in NJ. Which is certainly more but I have seen worse in other states. 

benjrblant > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:38

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tell me more about how owning a 6,000lb cadillac SUV that gets 15mpg is expensive. 

Michael > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:38

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Factoring in ad valorem / sales tax from Georgia, yearly over 10 years from puchase

$35,000 2016 Escalade, purchased in 2019

Sales tax $6431

Yearly goes to $643.10 to amortize sales tax over 10 years

Plus $20/year for tags, $663.10

AddictedToM3s - Drives a GC > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:39

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I’m more curious why the registration is $ 731!

jimz > Ash78, voting early and often 10/23/2019 at 11:39

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they get their money one way or another, whether it’s taxes or “fees.” 

Michael > Michael 10/23/2019 at 11:39

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Though this does not factor in the California sales tax, just pointing out that there’s hidden costs in the numbers for other states, too

Thomas Donohue > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:40

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NJ would have topped the list at $84 for a 2016 Light truck over 3500 lbs.

Luckily we didn’t win at this game of ‘Who wants to Live in an Expensive State? ’ . Congrats to CA for the landslide victory. You are En Fuego!

(puns intended. sorry, not sorry)

jminer > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:41

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In Missouri it would cost you more than California . About $100 for plates and registration but then you get charged an annual personal property  tax which is a percentage of valuation. W hen I last bought a new car I paid $800 in addition to the plates and I live in a rural county with lower taxes than the more populated areas. My car was also valued at $25k and not the $50k that Escalade is.

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:41

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California’s registration also includes the annual taxes that aren’t part of the registration. When I moved to Virginia I was amazed at how low the registration was, then I got the bill twice a year for “personal property tax” and said “Oh, there’s the where the difference went to.”

LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > Sovande 10/23/2019 at 11:43

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The same is true for North Carolina.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:44

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That’s a bit deceptive, and isn’t necessarily reflective of the actual cost to own a vehicle. My registration might only be $60, but I have to pay a $500ish annual excise tax (calculated off of original msrp) on top of that. It looks like California just rolls that into one fee.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:45

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I think this would be the same cost in Montana as we don’t have sales tax so there is slightly higher fees to register vehicles in state . IIRC my new Outback was about $400 to register the first year. Now it’s 7 years old and we are down to about $140/year on that car.

Gone > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:45

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TX will be $100.75 if you live in an emissions county...

Chuckles > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:47

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When I lived in North Carolina, we were paying hundreds of dollars a year in “vehicle tax” on top of that $36 registration. And we both drove Hondas that were at least 8 years old.

Aremmes > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:49

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Bad research is bad. Just because the registration itself is priced low doesn’t mean that the state won’t get you on other things outside of the registration cost. E.g., Pennsylvania’s annual registration costs $42 (not $36 like the derpy post you attached), but doesn’t include the compulsory (including for brand-new cars) annual safety inspection (and emissions inspection in urban/suburban counties), nor the sales tax on purchase (6% in most places, higher in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh) . Also, the Pennsylvania Turnpike is hella expensive nowadays.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:51

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That does not include the vehicle property tax though. In California it’s 0.65% but in Mississippi (one of those supposedly tax friendly states ) it’s 3.55%.

So on a 2016 Escalade worth probably around $40k that’s an additional $260 ($991 total) in California and an additional $1420 ($1435) total in Mississippi.

Still want to complain?

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-the-highest-and-lowest-property-taxes/11585/

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:52

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If the state is missing, I suspect it’s because it doesn’t fit the narrative.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Ash78, voting early and often 10/23/2019 at 11:52

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Maryland also has a “rain tax” for the rain that falls on anything you own.

Maryland is California with better crab cakes and worse guacamole.

shop-teacher > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 10/23/2019 at 11:53

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Personal proper ty tax blows my mind. I’d never heard of that before I started frequenting Oppo. It is not a thing in Illinois

Cash Rewards > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 10/23/2019 at 11:53

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Yeah, va resident here. This is either ill informed or disingenuous

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 10/23/2019 at 11:54

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Right, but Virginia is an outlier with that “personal tax thing”.

It’s also a place where a speeding ticket in any other state results in jail time.

https://jalopnik.com/never-speed-in-virginia-lessons-from-my-three-days-in-1613604053

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > jminer 10/23/2019 at 11:55

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I’m so glad we don’t have property tax on vehicles here. I hate all property tax to begin with (why should you be penalized simply for owning something) , but to tax a depreciating asset like a car is asinine .

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:55

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AZ’s formula is tied to MSRP (I picked 80k although it could be higher or lower for a 2016 Escalade bought new) and it’s expensive if you buy expensive. But we’ve talked about how the AZ MVD is.

Also, we beat Cali for this year.

Edit: Registration costs for my cars per annum is something like close to a grand. 

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Gerry197 > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:55

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Just a note, there are few States where it would actually be more than that. California doesn’t have the highest auto registration in the nation.   

shop-teacher > SiennaMan 10/23/2019 at 11:56

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No, Indiana charges a progressively higher tax, depending on how valuable the vehicle. This list is deliberately incomplete. Not that I will argue that Cali fornia isn’t charging too much, and clearly they are, but it’s not as disparate as it would have you believe.

E90M3 > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:56

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That’s bullshit on the SC front, you’ve got to pay property taxes as well. 

shop-teacher > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/23/2019 at 11:56

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Even several of the states on the list charge separate annual vehicle taxes that they are not including.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > benjrblant 10/23/2019 at 11:57

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15mpg would actually be impressive

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > B_dol 10/23/2019 at 11:58

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Of course, the price of gas is also much higher in CA than nearby states, so in a year you’ll ALSO pay another $1000-2000 in California taxes and costs to drive that car.  It all adds up.

UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 11:58

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Kentucky requires a usage tax yearly as well based on MSRP of the vehiclez

ttyymmnn > shop-teacher 10/23/2019 at 11:59

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It might sort of balance out in the end. Here in TX, we don’t pay state income tax, but the state sales tax is 6.25%, and local agencies  are allowed to tack up to an additional 2% on top of that. So we are paying 8. 25% sales tax. The VA sales tax is 4.3%, and locals can add up to 1%. That state sales tax rate is virtually unchanged since I lived there in the 80s, when it was 4%. 

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Gerry197 10/23/2019 at 11:59

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If you factored in “all automotive running costs” California comes out on top. That extra $1.20-2.00 a gallon for gasoline adds up over 12000-15000 miles.

Mercedes Streeter > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 12:00

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I want to laugh, but the property taxes I’m technically responsible for were roughly $10k last year.

It also costs at minimum $275 to register a car with the price skyrocketing by both model year and vehicle value. Thanks, Illinois...

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 12:01

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They seem to be missing about $900 in excise taxes for the MA number.

My X-type is too a real Jaguar > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 12:05

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I Georgia you pay a tax when you buy a car, if you buy at a dealer it is rolled into the purchase price, if you buy Private Party the DMV decides how much it is worth and you pay that tax to register it the 1st time, if you move to the state you pay it to transfer your registration. My 2007 Dodge Ram was $500 to register last January but it will be $20 the rest of it’s life, this is better than the old Excise tax system which averaged about $150 a year per car.

It works if you keep you cars a long time.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 10/23/2019 at 12:06

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K eep in mind, I’m paying almost $600 for a twenty year old car vs  the $760 this person is paying for a new one.

Eberle-Hills-Cop > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 12:07

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Yeah that NH value is comically low.

Censored > shop-teacher 10/23/2019 at 12:08

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Illinois gets our money plenty of other ways. Don’t give them any more ideas.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/23/2019 at 12:14

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I would hope it’s close to that. We have a 2007 Yukon with the 6.2 that comes in the Escalade and we average 13-14mpg in mixed driving and 15-16 on the freeway. So I would hope nearly 10 years of advancements would net +2mpg

Gerry197 > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/23/2019 at 12:14

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Sure, and that goes beyond auto costs, housing is insane over there for example.

But we were only talking about registration fees.

Their gas right now is always higher, but especially high now due to refinery issues, but temporary. Their average costs at this time should be $3.35 a gallon, currently its $3.65 is their lowest top tier for 87 at Costco based on what I’m seeing.  Average non-club station is $3.90 at ARCO.   

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/23/2019 at 12:17

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The rain tax has a some what logical origin, they’re taxing the amount of “impermeable surfaces” on your property. Basically if you have a large parking lot on your property they’re going to hit you with higher taxes because of the likelihood that oil and various other pollutants will be washed off that surface along with rainwater along with messing up the grounds natural draining properties if drainage is accounted for.

I’m going through this shit right now because the PO of my house slapped a shit tonne of concrete everywhere without a permit and I’m trying to expand my house.

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > Aremmes 10/23/2019 at 12:18

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PA’s registration was $36 for ages and just recently went up to $37. Philly (and some other counties)  tacks on their own registration fee, but not everywhere is like that. 

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 12:21

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He's way off. Registration on my GTI was going to be $700 in SC. 

functionoverfashion > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 12:26

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I mean, is the $731 the only fee? Or is that separate from the municipal portion, like in New Hampshire. Because you can’t register a 2016 Escalade in NH for $55. That’s only the State portion. The town/city will get you for - you guessed it - about another $700 on that particular vehicle. 

jminer > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 10/23/2019 at 12:31

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It’s how we fund schools , fire and police here. The state gives almost no f unding to any of the above entities so that’s how the local county taxes to fund it.

Taxes aren’t fun but are necessary if you want roads to drive on, schools to educate children and someone to show up when you call 911.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Thomas Donohue 10/23/2019 at 12:32

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I was going to chime in about Jersey.  I find it hard to believe we’re getting off so relatively light in NJ.  I thought registration was high here.  Apparently, I’m very wrong.  

Chariotoflove > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/23/2019 at 12:35

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CA would have that too if SoCal had enough rain that they thought it would be a profit stream. :)

someassemblyrequired > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/23/2019 at 12:36

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It’s not, most of New England has personal property tax as well.   And it’s high - think 2-5% of the vehicle’s value every year.

Chariotoflove > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 12:38

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Every state gets its pound of flesh one way or another. The thing to focus on is what they do with all the money they collect. I wouldn’t begrudge my property taxes, for example, if the schools it supports were good.

BigBlock440 > Aremmes 10/23/2019 at 12:41

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PA used to be $36, it’s now $38.  They allowed other counties to charge additional fees, which is where your 42 is coming from.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/23/2019 at 12:42

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I rented a Yukon XL and got 22mpg on the highway. That seemed pretty darn good to me. Better than I got in my Subaru the day before (also on the highway) anyways. 

Nick Has an Exocet > someassemblyrequired 10/23/2019 at 12:43

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It’s called Excise Tax in Massachusetts and it’s 2 . 5%.

Jay, the practical enthusiast > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 12:43

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Florida seems to be $32.50 (plus another $4 to 7 in administrative fees) to renew your registration for a year. No other inspections or taxes. I had no idea some people pay so much just to own a car.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > someassemblyrequired 10/23/2019 at 12:44

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When I say “outlier” I just meant in relation to states in the West which take a different view on the concepts of personal liberty. I worked in VA, The District and MD for a few years, but never understood how people dealt with all the little indignities that officials threw their way so casually...

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 12:51

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A $17k car would be $ 315 in property tax  So cry me a river

Sovande > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/23/2019 at 13:00

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Virginia is in the majority as it relates to personal property taxes charged on vehicles.  26 other states do the same thing.  So I’d be hard pressed to call it an “outlier.”

That asshole was doing 93 in a 55 on a public road. Is the penalty harsh? Sure. Will he exceed the speed limit by 38 mph again? I’d guess not. Anything 20mph is reckless and anything exceeding 80 mph is reckless no matter the speed limit.

Further, this shit is ridiculous posturing from a priveleged asshole:

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He then goes on to let everyone know that he was warned to not speed in VA and figu red because he was so special it would be no big deal.

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In short, fuck this guy. His “I’m a car reviewer who was in control of my excessive speed on a public road which was in the middle of nowhere ” narrative is absurdist bullshit. As is his insis tence that the speed limits are artificially low.  He got caught going close to double the speed limit.  Around here, that shit gets you locked up.  I have been a driver in this state for 28 years and have never been caught driving like a complete asshole.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > functionoverfashion 10/23/2019 at 13:02

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My coworkers husband kept going on how NH was the promise land of cheap living. “No income tax” So they move, then they get a property tax of $ 12k for a postage stamp sized lot.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > jminer 10/23/2019 at 13:06

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I get that, I just wish we did away with property tax on primary residences and primary vehicles. Having a home shouldn’t be a tax penalty and vehicles are practically a necessity in much of the US . Make up for that tax difference with a higher income tax, sales tax, and/or luxury tax.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Sovande 10/23/2019 at 13:10

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Red State, Blue State...

90 on those sections of Texas or Utah 85 MPH speed limits ? You probably don’t even get stopped. You certainly don’t get locked up for three days.

Largely this whole taxation discussion is “mostly” Red State, Blue State.  Not complete correlation, but close.  Most parts of the West take personal liberty seriously.

someassemblyrequired > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/23/2019 at 13:10

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Washington State counties often have a similar tax, but it’s collected through the registration system. Prior to the late 90s there was a 2% tax on the current value of the vehicle, payable with your registration, similar to Virginia’s.

Virginia has a dumb and bloated public sector, especially at the municipal level, which is what makes it annoying.

Washington State’s lucky in that a lot of it s public sector employees are really good at their jobs.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > someassemblyrequired 10/23/2019 at 13:14

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One of our portfolio companies years ago had an office “across the river” from Portland and I remember a couple of the engineers commiserating about how much better the Oregon registration system was than Washington’s.

At that time the dream deal was to pay Washington income taxes (zero) while buying all your household needs and vehicles at the Oregon sales tax rate (zero) while making damn sure you didn’t register a car in Washington by mistake...

dogisbadob > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 13:18

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Doesn’t Virginia tax them as property taxes though? So the registration fee is based on the value of the car. If they only charge $45, it means the Escalade drops like a rock in value.

Chevy, like a rock... in terms of depreciation! :p

Sovande > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/23/2019 at 13:21

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And there must be a cadre of folks in power in VA who felt there was no reason people should be doing 93 in a 55 and that the penalty for doing so will be severe. This isn’t a personal liberty thing, it is a safety thing. What others states ignore, as far as speeding is concerned, is hardly relevant. Virginia set laws in place and if you violate them you will possibly go to jail.

someassemblyrequired > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/23/2019 at 13:21

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In general WA is pretty good, but yeah, we used to joke if you could find a job in Vancouver, WA, you had the best of both worlds.

They started clamping down pretty hard on the OR plates which curtailed things, but it still kind of happens.

functionoverfashion > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 10/23/2019 at 13:26

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I mean, it varies by town of course. We have 5.5 acres and our taxes are around $5k. Our tax rate is pretty low because we have a good portion of high-value properties (mostly s econd homes)  relative to the number of permanent residents. We also have very little town infrastructure (no town water, sewer, etc).

But yeah, the money has to come from somewhere.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Sovande 10/23/2019 at 13:30

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Not according to the other 49 states, where this is AT WORST a reckless driving charge, with a lot of points, and a possible loss of license. Turning it into a Felony-Grade Incarceration just shows how out-of-touch Virginia is in their police state.

Of course, these are the same assholes that have always tried to outlaw ordinary S-band and X-band radio receivers that are legal everywhere else.

Over-stepping assholes. I don’t, for a second, miss the long drives down the 95 or 301 to call on military, and agency bases in some dismal  Virginia swamp.  It’s on my short list of states I’m happy never to visit again.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/23/2019 at 13:35

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25 over is reckless and will result in jail in most states

functionoverfashion > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/23/2019 at 13:35

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Depends, my father in law used to get a consistent 17 in his 2004 YukonXl Denali, nearly the same vehicle. He’s not a slow driver, he just keeps his top speed down and spends a lot of time at ~71 on the highway.

But also, not owning an $80k SUV @ 15mpg could save you a couple bucks, if that’s the concern. CA IS an expensive place to own a car. 

fintail > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/23/2019 at 13:36

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It’d be interesting to see the source here, hopefully not something like reason.com or a boomery facebook feed.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/23/2019 at 13:38

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I’m betting Utah it Texas have different  geography than a twisty mountain rd in va 

jminer > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 10/23/2019 at 13:38

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Preach!

But seriously I agree 100% with you here. Missouri will never do that, our top tax bracket is something stupid like $9k(annually).

Thomas Donohue > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! 10/23/2019 at 13:41

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Well, with the exception of CA, we’re probably the highest registration rates in the country. ( I think that post above is for a commercial vehicle, not a per sonal one).

We also rank towards the top for insurance, tolls, parking, etc. But, w e do have relatively low fuel prices, however, and we don’t even have to get out of our cars to pump it!

The low cost of fuel keeps us at #20 nationwide.  Rhode Island, Arizona, and Nevada take the top three spots in total cost of ownership according to US News + World Report :

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/most-expensive-states-to-own-a-car

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 10/23/2019 at 13:48

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Nah.

The doctrine in most states is that IF THE RECKLESS DRIVING caused injury to another party? Sure. Jail time can result.

However, in cases where it’s simply speeding? Big fine, lots of points, possible loss of license. But the idea that a speeder WHO CAUSED NO INJURY should be sent to jail with hardened criminals? That’s nutty in and of itself. THREE DAYS?

I’ll stand by my earlier statement.... hated every minute in Virginia.  Happy never to go back.  Your Mileage May Vary.  Enjoy the swamp;.

cmill189 - sans Volvo > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 13:49

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Utah numbers are about $100 off plus   $25 or more for emission testing.

Me thinks this is another Facebook falsehood being passed around.

Sovande > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/23/2019 at 13:55

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It’s not a “fe lo ny-grade” anything, it’s a misdemeanor. Calling it a “police state” because you can’t drive as fast as you deem safe, regardless of posted limits, is a bit hyperbolic.

In what Utopia do you currently reside?

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 14:05

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It’d be like $4k in the ST3 tax region in Washington...

Khalbali > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 14:07

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If a state is missing it's because it's even more expensive and thus doesn't prove their point (Colorado)

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Sovande 10/23/2019 at 14:12

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It’s in my Username.

Enjoy the swamp.  

Sovande > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/23/2019 at 14:17

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Thanks!

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > ttyymmnn 10/23/2019 at 14:27

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Texas has such a sweet tax regime. Our sales and property taxes are super high to make up for the lack of income tax.

Shamoononon drives like a farmer > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 14:29

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California is way over priced, I’m going to move when the time is right.  Too much taxes.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/23/2019 at 14:30

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Injury isn’t required for reckless driving.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reckless_driving?wprov=sfti1

And I don’t live in VA.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 10/23/2019 at 14:35

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Don’t distort what I said.  That’s simply disingenuous.

BIGBLOCK472 - wide and bizarre > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 14:36

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My registration for a 2012 Camry SE with 175k would have been $146 in Mississippi this year. I’m not sure that the $15 is referring to. 

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/23/2019 at 14:38

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I could never swing it, but this was something I hoped to do for a while. There’s just not enough work on the north side of the river...

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 10/23/2019 at 14:39

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Utah has even twistier mountain roads.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Chariotoflove 10/23/2019 at 14:44

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SoCal has torrential rains and flash floods when it rains. It rains hard when it does. If you’re ever in Los Angeles, it’ll probably be dry and you’ll marvel at these massive concrete-lined river beds, but we call them “washes” and they will be filled to the brim or even overflowing when these rain storms come. People often  die from rain there.

Chariotoflove > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 10/23/2019 at 15:01

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I actually do know that.  I was just taking the opportunity to make a smart-assed joke associated with the desert clime.  However, it was pretty lame, so I’ll own that mistake.

shop-teacher > Censored 10/23/2019 at 16:11

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Oh, they already had the idea.  They were considering a progressively higher registration price depending on the value of the vehicle, like Indiana does.  Fortunately they didn’t go for that.

shop-teacher > ttyymmnn 10/23/2019 at 16:13

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Illinois’ has both a stat income tax, and plenty of sales tax.  In my town, it’s somewhere between 7-8%.  It’s over 10% in Crook ... I mean Cook ... county.

ttyymmnn > shop-teacher 10/23/2019 at 17:36

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Illinois voters don’t  tolerate corrupt politicians. They demand them.

nermal > Aremmes 10/23/2019 at 18:00

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Don’t forget about PA’s gas taxes - #1 in the nation! 

f86sabre > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 18:20

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That GA number is BS. Yes, “ registration ” is $20, but you also have to pay ad velorum tax at the same time. Our 2018 Odyssey is something like $300.

Aremmes > nermal 10/23/2019 at 18:41

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To be fair, though, gas prices here are still lower than in CA despite those taxes. It’s around $2.58 /gal in most places near me, while in IM’s town they’re around $3.80/gal.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > functionoverfashion 10/23/2019 at 21:34

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Yeah they were @10-15 minutes from the border, with full utilities. On top she was putting 35k a year on her car, just commuting. We were like, how much are you actually saving?